Anyone know what the tone differences would be between the two. Dec 18, 2012 mesa boogie s unveiling of its four new overdrive and distortion pedals marks a unique point in the companys storied history. Never try it without consulting your manual or the manufacturer. Selects between two different types of rectifiers to be used. Mesa boogie amps seemed to be the beallendall tone solution to get virtually any tone i desired. Both amps are amazing but they have very unique voices and features. Mesaboogie is an american company in petaluma, california, that manufactures amplifiers for.
Mesa was started by randall smith as a small repair shop which modified fender amplifiers, particularly the diminutive fender princeton. And if you share our passion for mesas dual rectifier series, a newly. By doing this, it moves the frequency from which the treble swings on axis from 1. I recently got into possession a mesa boogie mark iv which im pretty excited about.
Legendary tones my lovehate mesaboogie story, part i. Mark v its worth mentioning that while the mark is tighter than a recto, the recto is by no means an incredibly loose amp. Used mesa boogie triple rectifier solo head and matching. The official mesa boogie online store for factory replacement parts, custom parts, hardware, shirts, hats and accessories.
Value of the resistor depends on how solid the rest of the power supply is, and the threshold of when you want the sag to kick in. Mesaboogie owners manual amplifier solo 50rectoverb 50. The problem is that mesa boogie is real expensive here in norway. Dual rectifier revisions and versions warpedmusician. This stack is an eye catcher,an ear catcher, and is ready to rock sp. I have wanted either a dual rec or a rectoverb for so long. Both of these amps are high gain monsters, but have a unique voicing specific to each amp. Kager currently owns central jersey music services, one of the countrys largest service centers. The amp features three channels, each with their own three voicings assignable by toggleswitches. This distinction engendered the misconception that the name dual rectifier was. When i was working at guitar center and our mesa rep came in, the mini sounded.
In general tube rectifiers fail due to either physical damage or bad manufacturing. There are virtually no limits or compromises as you can footswitch between three discreet channels each sound dedicated and fully evolved. I told him to buy a dual rectifier, preferably a two channel version, but hes really suspicious when it comes to buying used. Beyond its expansive sonic signature, 6l6 tubes are consistent. Nov 29, 2005 to my ear, there is not much of a difference between the singlerectoverb red modern gain and the tov red modern gain with tov silicon rectifer engaged. Single vs dual rectifier ultimate metal heavy metal forum.
In this new video josh demonstrates the monstrous mesa boogie dual rectifier. Pictures of actual guitar head and cabinet we just recently got this mesa boogie rectifier solo head and 4x12 speaker cabinet in on a trade from one of our nicest customers. The mesa boogie triple rectifier solo head is a guitar amp head that has three distinct channels. The way i see it is when the switch is in the tube rectifier state it looks as if they are both in parallel. Running through the various tones available using a. I was wondering if anyone have tried both of these and how the rectifier sound of these two compare. Mesa boogie dual rectifier demo by josh wibaut youtube. The minis high gain sounds i mean truly high gain, not that gritty medium gain shit are in no way comparable to a dual rectifier. They can produce a nice array of tones, but it takes time to get to know them. The mesa boogie dual rectifier solo head is a 100 watt tube guitar amplifier head that offers three channels with two modes each, as well as controls for master, presence, treble, mid, bass, and gain. The mesaboogie dual rectifier tube amp head packs a ton of monster tone into a 3channel package thats ready. The road king ii is around 3 grand and the roadster is 2 grand. Review mesaboogie dual rectifier roadster don stick.
What is the best version of the mesa boogie rectifier head. Tweed mode is especially addictive in the roadster. However et appears to be a straight line level output for connection to another power amp. Unfortunately, a lot of chinese made tube rectifiers seem to fit the bad manufacturing bill with up to a 50% failure rate at some points. On the back of every mesa engineering dual rectifier, there are 2 switches to select options for the power supply. Ive done some reading and all ive come up with is the number of tubes, the wattage, volume, and possibly the number of channels. Single rectifier solo head mesa boogie audiofanzine. Please treat it with respect and operate it properly. I know nothing about them but i know that the mesa boogie triple rectifier sounds lovely, whether its because of the rectifiers ive no idea. More recently, dennis has consulted for ampeg, fender, yamaha, mesa boogie, soldano and many others.
If it had two rectifiers tube and solid state itd have dual rectifiers. I was wondering whats the difference between a series 1 and a series 2 mesa boogie single rectifier. Mesa boogie debuts the fillmore 100, a 100watt combo or head with matching cab 04 jun 2019 when you need real headroom, only 100 watts of allvalve power will do. Unfollow mesa boogie to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. It has a 14 inch input in the front for your guitar and a speaker cable output in the back to send this head to a speaker cabinet. While still leaving the widest, deepest footprint in heavy music, the dual rectifier has become the amp of choice for a long list of chart topping devotees outside the world of heavy. My subway rocket gets a better high gain recto sound than a mini rectifier. A lot of its identity comes from it being underbuilt. Rectifier rectoverb 50 musical instrument amplifier pdf manual download. Is dual rectifier better than triple rectifier for. Mesaboogie also known as mesa engineering is an american company in petaluma, california, that manufactures amplifiers for guitars and basses. The wattage can be assigned to one channel or split into 50 watts across two channels. We carry a huge selection of mesa boogie speaker cabinets in all kinds of configurations and custom colors. Mar 16, 2020 hey guys, heres a new comparison i put together that shows the tonal differences between a vintage vs.
Then i finally found a local shop and played one for the very first time. May 06, 2016 mesa boogie have simply hit upon one of the best and most flexible clean channel designs of all time and it loses nothing in its roadster iteration, particularly with the lonestarspec spring reverb added via the rear panel knob. They have also mentioned that if you were to remove certain tube out of the triple you can make it sound like a dual except for a light difference due to the difference between the transformers in the power amp section. View and download mesaboogie rectifier rectoverb 50 owners manual online. The only difference between the dual and triple is the power section, so setting them to be the same basically turns them into identical amps. Luckily for you, mesa boogie has just announced the new fillmore 100 amp combo and head with matching cab. Someone requested a comparison between my mark v 35 and my mini rectifier 25 and i thought it was a great idea. Bold, spongy, and rectifier selection warpedmusician. Versatility being one of the cornerstones of mesa products, the vast majority of mesa amps have either been designed specifically with 6l6s only, or, those amps with the switchable bias are originally shipped with 6l6s from the factory. Footswitch single button, latching, no led mesaboogie. Mesa boogie amps are amazingly flexible and powerful machines. I usually hear people talking more about the dual rectifier for recording. Electronic vacuum tube electronics in the post apocalypse.
There is absolutely no difference between the single and dual rectifiers except for maximum power output, and 2 vs 3 channels. I know the rectifier recording preamp has six 12ax7 tubes in while the triaxis only have 5. Is dual rectifier better than triple rectifier for recording. Feb 16, 2016 on the back of every mesa engineering dual rectifier, there are 2 switches to select options for the power supply. Mesaboogie dual rectifier 100watt tube head diamond. Your mesa boogie amplifier is a professional instrument. Thats not really a half power switch like you are thinking. One of these is to select bold and spongy and affect overall voltage to the amplifier, with bold being full power and spongy reducing power by about 20%. It drops the internal working voltage down and changes the tone and feel of the amp, its not like pulling two tubes out for a while. The rectoverb is a very limited version of the rectifier sound you get the recto preamp voicing, but it doesnt have the fourtube complexity, the tube rectifier dynamics, the spongy mode, the effortless massive tone, and the reverb is pretty crap and solid state. Ive come quite accustomed to the dual rec tone via bands such as btbam and painted in exile and was hoping for some more insight.
Built into a dual rectifier design, we offer guitarists a means to choose between both types of rectifiers vacuum tube or silicon diode. Therefore, we will be using the illustration of the triple rectifier solo head throughout this owners manual in regards to identifying and explaining the various. I have only ever been disappointed by the mini recs, when i was about 16 i was working for a music shop and they let me plug into a dual rectifier through a mesa cab and that thing fucking roared. Its just a simpler circuit, having only two channels, and it lacks a few of the bells and whistles i dont think it has the tube rectifier available, for example. Thanks guys, i think what sluckey is saying is that when using the tube rectifier in the 64 custom vibroverb see schematic link above, there is an added resistor r79 2. How to use mesaboogie dual rectifier head as preamp for. Mesa boogie is a leading innovator of guitar amplification technology whose product line includes the mark v, dual and triple rectifier, lone star, transatlantic, mini rectifier, and most recently the new mark five. Aug 10, 2003 im interested to change my old tube amp for a rectifier. The dirtier it gets the bigger the differences are between the two. The mesa boogie single rectifier is an amp that continues on the lineage of the famed and well known rectifier line. Roadster versus dual rectifier whats the difference. With a boost in front, theyre some of my favorite amps for bigger tones. Bummer for me, is the band seems to be done and i did not get to try these mesas in a band mix yet.
If you want a portable true rectifier, get the single rec series 2 with either one or two 1x12 extension cabs. Sep 16, 2015 mesa wants to deliberately cheapen some stuff out but if they can do it they do it without harming the amps performance. Its a slightly stripped down version of the dual rectifier, putting out 50 watts of power and only having one rectifier tube, which does provide a slightly different tonal edge as well as a slightly different feel that to me suits the lower wattage without compromising the. Sporting a quad of 6l6s, this 150 watt death machine is the one amp you really need if you want those essential recorded rock and metal tones of the last three decades. The lineup began as the dual rectifier series of amps, which included the solo. In 2010 mesa introduced the multiwatt dual and triple rectifier amplifiers. Im not sure how many watts of power it has, but this thing really cranks. Due to the popularity of our dual rectifier amplifiers, the term rectifier has become a bit synonymous with the performance. Was looking at this mesa maverick schem and i am wondering how the switching between solid state and tube rectifier is working.
Mesa boogie mark iv vs dual rectifier ultimate metal. Dual rectifier channel 3 modern tone stack warpedmusician. While im not concerned about that, what i really want to know how they sound compared to each other. The triple rectifier 150 mutiwatt head unleashes all the punishing gain found in the original mesaboogie rectos two channels, adding a powerful third. The real differences between the types are in how much dc they make out of.
However im not too sure if its the sound i will be looking for. Is there a reason why it would be better for recording versus the triple. Mesaboogie mark iv, a guitar combo amplifier the mesa boogie mark series is a series of guitar amplifier made by mesa engineering more commonly known as mesa boogie. I know that the series 2 has the extra raw setting on channel 2, but is that it. Mesa amps sitting on store shelves for a few years is not at all uncommon and one of the reasons they have typically opted for having smaller retail networks. Discussion in amps and cabs started by lennybird, mar 21, 2009. Not only are these the newest of the rectifier heads but also the most versatile versions of these heads and we feel the best sounding of all the models. Il en existe beaucoup chez orange, bugera et autres engl. Oct 17, 2011 this is a side by side comparison of mesaboogie dual rectifier and mark v.
Mesaboogie toneburst, throttle box, grid slammer, and flux. Your mesaboogie amplifier is a professional instrument. Jul 21, 2016 this has actually been a feature on a number of mesa boogie amplifiers, since we patented the idea of dual rectification in the early 1990s and released the first dual rectifier head. Unfollow mesa boogie dual rectifier to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. However, if you like a little sag, the tov tube rectifier is cool. Jul 23, 2015 so the other option is to get a multi channel amp and as far as my research is concern booth adam and petrucci uses dual recto somwhere in time but the typical dual recto is not that excellent on solo guitar but deadly on rhythm and behold the roadking dual rectifier that amp which is capable of soaring leads and crushing massive rhythm dirt and is used in train of thought if im not mistaken. Jun 08, 2008 the road king ii, i know is capable of switching between 6l6s and el34 tubes, so you basically have two different amps in one, due to it having different sets of tubes. This is a very noobish question but what are the differences between the mesa single rectifier, dual rectifier, triple rectifier, and the road king. In terms of tone and construction, they are decidedly different from mesa s previous forays into stompbox territorythe v1 bottle rocket and the dual rectifier inspired vtwin. Mesaboogie founder and president randall smith has come a long way from the late 1960s, when he was repairing and modifying fender amps and building a reputation in the san francisco bay area with locals like the grateful dead and carlos santana. Im looking into possibly buying one used and i wanted to know the differences so i make the best choice. While this is true in certain ways, it implies unreliability on the part of vacuum tube rectifiers. I have been searching for the dual rectifiers and some say solo head while others say 100 watt.
Sag resistor works as well as tube rectifiers, with much less hassle. Further, the dual rectifier maverick is 35w and only has one rectifier tube, but still has dual rectifiers. Mesa boogie catalogs strike a wonderful balance between flowing, descriptive prose, useful product information, and technical details. This changes the capacitance value from 500 pf to 680 pf. I definitely think mesa is professional grade, without a doubt. I have just picked up a dual caliber 100w and a nomad 100 in the last few weeks that i am excited about. That sucks my mid 90s rack rectifier has a 12 power as well as spongybold and the tubess rectifier. Mesa boogie used similar principles, calling their switch something like boldspongy. When modern mode is selected on channel 3 of a dual rectifier, an additional capacitor is added to the circuit. Class a and what are the differences between the lone. The mesa boogie triple rectifier is the bigger brother of the dual rectifier. Mesa dual rectifier roadster as your amplifier and welcome to the. Mesaboogies latest incarnation of the dual rectifier offers an incredibly broad range of tonal possibilities, thanks to its combination of new featureslike multiwatt operation, an assignable series effects loop, and the new lone starmark v clean voicings in channel 1as well as the legacy voicings in channels 2 and 3.
Mesaboogie is a leading innovator of guitar amplification technology whose product line includes the mark v, dual and triple rectifier, lone star. Originally just referred to as boogies, the product line took on the moniker mark series as newer revisions were put into production. There are no diodeclipping amps in the mesa recto line its got a silicon diode rectifier, but all rectos do. I love both so i wouldnt want to choose so luckily i dont have to. Kager went on to start sundown amplifiers in the 80s, which featured his patented variable output wattage rmsswitch. Mesa spax7 preamp tubes are a superpremium grade substitute for any 12ax7 positions they are a special requirement preamp tube that possess an even higher standard of overall performance, due to their incredibly low sensitivity to microphonic noise this is the ultimate preamp tube to use in all critical gain stage positions it is the absolute best of the best.
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